HP Deskjet 2544 Emnet er løst

[kjld]

Her kommer de begge to.

Kode: Vælg alt

$ sudo apt purge hplip hplip-gui
[sudo] password for kjeld:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Package 'hplip' is not installed, so not removed
Package 'hplip-gui' is not installed, so not removed
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  python3-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5 python3-notify2
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.

~$ $ sudo apt purge hplip hplip-gui
$: command not found
~$ [sudo] password for kjeld:
[sudo]: command not found
~$ Reading package lists... Done
Reading: command not found
~$ Building dependency tree       
Building: command not found
~$ Reading state information... Done
Reading: command not found
~$ Package 'hplip' is not installed, so not removed

Command 'Package' not found, did you mean:

  command 'package' from deb mailagent (1:3.1-81-4build1)

Try: sudo apt install <deb name>

kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$ Package 'hplip-gui' is not installed, so not removed

Command 'Package' not found, did you mean:

  command 'package' from deb mailagent (1:3.1-81-4build1)

Try: sudo apt install <deb name>

kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$ The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:

Command 'The' not found, did you mean:

  command 'he' from deb node-he (1.2.0-1)
  command 'the' from deb the (3.3~rc1-3build1)

Try: sudo apt install <deb name>

kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$   python3-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5 python3-notify2
python3-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5: command not found
kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$ Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.

Command 'Use' not found, did you mean:

  command 'nse' from deb ns2 (2.35+dfsg-3build1)
  command 'ase' from deb ase (3.19.0-1)

Try: sudo apt install <deb name>

kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$ 0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
0: command not found
kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$

[Klaus Rasmussen]

Pas på med hvad du kopierer, du skal kun kopiere kommandoer!

Så mangler du at hente den nye udgave og køre den anden kommando til installation:

Kode: Vælg alt

cd Hentet
sh hplip-3.20.11.run

Husk, én ad gangen!

[kjld]

Her kommer de begge på den rigtige måde - håber jeg

Kode: Vælg alt

kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$ cd Hentet
bash: cd: Hentet: No such file or directory
kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$

kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$ sh hplip-3.20.11.run
Creating directory hplip-3.20.11
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing HPLIP 3.20.11 Self Extracting Archive...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.20.11)
HPLIP Installer ver. 5.1

Copyright (c) 2001-18 HP Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

Installer log saved in: hplip-install_Sun-13-Dec-2020_19:35:09.log

\
note: Defaults for each question are maked with a '*'. Press <enter> to accept the default.
/Gtk-Message: 19:35:11.919: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
 

INSTALLATION MODE
-----------------
Automatic mode will install the full HPLIP solution with the most common options.
Custom mode allows you to choose installation options to fit specific requirements.

Please choose the installation mode (a=automatic*, c=custom, q=quit) : a


INTRODUCTION
------------
This installer will install HPLIP version 3.20.11 on your computer.
Please close any running package management systems now (YaST, Adept, Synaptic, Up2date, etc).


DISTRO/OS CONFIRMATION
----------------------
Distro appears to be Ubuntu 20.04.

Is "Ubuntu 20.04" your correct distro/OS and version (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? y

Initializing. Please wait...


ENTER USER PASSWORD
-------------------
Please enter the sudoer (kjeld)'s password:
 

INSTALLATION NOTES
------------------
Enable the universe/multiverse repositories. Also be sure you are using the Ubuntu "Main" Repositories. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu for more information.  Disable the CD-ROM/DVD source if you do not have the Ubuntu installation media inserted in the drive.

Please read the installation notes. Press <enter> to continue or 'q' to quit:


SECURITY PACKAGES
-----------------
AppArmor is installed.
AppArmor protects the application from external intrusion attempts making the application secure

Would you like to have this installer install the hplip specific policy/profile (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? y


RUNNING PRE-INSTALL COMMANDS
----------------------------
OK


RUNNING HPLIP LIBS REMOVE COMMANDS
----------------------------------
sudo apt-get remove libhpmud0 libsane-hpaio
sudo apt-get remove libhpmud0 libsane-hpaio ( hp_libs_remove step 1)
OK


MISSING DEPENDENCIES
--------------------
Following dependencies are not installed. HPLIP will not work if all REQUIRED dependencies are not installed and some of the HPLIP features will not work if OPTIONAL dependencies are not installed.
Package-Name         Component            Required/Optional   
pyqt5-dbus           gui_qt5              OPTIONAL           
pil                  scan                 OPTIONAL           
reportlab            fax                  OPTIONAL           
pyqt5                gui_qt5              REQUIRED           
python-notify        gui_qt5              OPTIONAL           
Do you want to install these missing dependencies (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? y


INSTALL MISSING REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES
-------------------------------------
note: Installation of dependencies requires an active internet connection.
warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: pyqt5 (PyQt 5- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))


INSTALL MISSING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCIES
-------------------------------------
note: Installation of dependencies requires an active internet connection.
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'gui_qt5': pyqt5-dbus (PyQt 5 DBus - DBus Support for PyQt5)
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'gui_qt5': python-notify (Python libnotify - Python bindings for the libnotify Desktop notifications)
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'fax': reportlab (Reportlab - PDF library for Python)
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'scan': pil (PIL - Python Imaging Library (required for commandline scanning with hp-scan))
warning: This installer cannot install 'pil' for your distro/OS and/or version.


CHECKING FOR NETWORK CONNECTION
-------------------------------
Network connection present.


RUNNING PRE-PACKAGE COMMANDS
----------------------------
sudo dpkg --configure -a (Pre-depend step 1)
sudo apt-get install --yes --force-yes -f (Pre-depend step 2)
sudo apt-get update (Pre-depend step 3)
OK


DEPENDENCY AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION
----------------------------------
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes gtk2-engines-pixbuf'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
-Gtk-Message: 19:36:35.256: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
error: A required dependency 'pyqt5 (PyQt 5- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))' is still missing.


RUNNING POST-PACKAGE COMMANDS
-----------------------------
OK


RE-CHECKING DEPENDENCIES
------------------------
\Gtk-Message: 19:36:37.058: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"
error: A required dependency 'pyqt5 (PyQt 5- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))' is still missing.
error: Installation cannot continue without this dependency.
error: Please manually install this dependency and re-run this installer.

[Klaus Rasmussen]

Jeg bemærker mig specielt disse 2:

/Gtk-Message: 19:35:11.919: Failed to load module "canberra-gtk-module"

Kode: Vælg alt

sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module

Enable the universe/multiverse repositories.
Software Og opdateringer - første faneblad - sæt flueben for begge.

[kjld]

Her har du den

Kode: Vælg alt

$ sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module
[sudo] password for kjeld:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
libcanberra-gtk3-module is already the newest version (0.30-7ubuntu1).
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  python3-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5 python3-notify2
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
The following NEW packages will be installed
  libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk0
0 to upgrade, 2 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
Need to get 17.8 kB of archives.
After this operation, 92.2 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Get:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 libcanberra-gtk0 amd64 0.30-7ubuntu1 [7,916 B]
Get:2 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal/universe amd64 libcanberra-gtk-module amd64 0.30-7ubuntu1 [9,904 B]
Fetched 17.8 kB in 1s (17.4 kB/s)                 
Selecting previously unselected package libcanberra-gtk0:amd64.
(Reading database ... 261776 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to unpack .../libcanberra-gtk0_0.30-7ubuntu1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libcanberra-gtk0:amd64 (0.30-7ubuntu1) ...
Selecting previously unselected package libcanberra-gtk-module:amd64.
Preparing to unpack .../libcanberra-gtk-module_0.30-7ubuntu1_amd64.deb ...
Unpacking libcanberra-gtk-module:amd64 (0.30-7ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libcanberra-gtk0:amd64 (0.30-7ubuntu1) ...
Setting up libcanberra-gtk-module:amd64 (0.30-7ubuntu1) ...
Processing triggers for libc-bin (2.31-0ubuntu9.1) ...

[Klaus Rasmussen]

Ok, godt så. Så skal du installere driveren igen.

Kode: Vælg alt

sh hplip-3.20.11.run

Når du kopierer fra terminalen, kunne du så ikke sætte output i "code" tags, som jeg har gjort?

[kjld]

sætte output i "code" tags, som jeg har gjort?
Jo det vil jeg gerne gøre
men hvordan?
Jeg kan ikke lige se hvordan du har gjort

[kjld]

sætte output i "code" tags, som jeg har gjort?
Jo det vil jeg gerne gøre
men hvordan?
Jeg kan ikke lige se hvordan du har gjort

[kjld]

Det er måske sådan jeg sætter i quote

Kode: Vælg alt

kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$ sh hplip-3.20.11.run
Creating directory hplip-3.20.11
Verifying archive integrity... All good.
Uncompressing HPLIP 3.20.11 Self Extracting Archive...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

HP Linux Imaging and Printing System (ver. 3.20.11)
HPLIP Installer ver. 5.1

Copyright (c) 2001-18 HP Development Company, LP
This software comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.
This is free software, and you are welcome to distribute it
under certain conditions. See COPYING file for more details.

Installer log saved in: hplip-install_Sun-13-Dec-2020_21:45:27.log

\
note: Defaults for each question are maked with a '*'. Press <enter> to accept the default.


INSTALLATION MODE
-----------------
Automatic mode will install the full HPLIP solution with the most common options.
Custom mode allows you to choose installation options to fit specific requirements.

Please choose the installation mode (a=automatic*, c=custom, q=quit) : a


INTRODUCTION
------------
This installer will install HPLIP version 3.20.11 on your computer.
Please close any running package management systems now (YaST, Adept, Synaptic, Up2date, etc).


DISTRO/OS CONFIRMATION
----------------------
Distro appears to be Ubuntu 20.04.

Is "Ubuntu 20.04" your correct distro/OS and version (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? y

Initializing. Please wait...


ENTER USER PASSWORD
-------------------
Please enter the sudoer (kjeld)'s password:


INSTALLATION NOTES
------------------
Enable the universe/multiverse repositories. Also be sure you are using the Ubuntu "Main" Repositories. See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu for more information. Disable the CD-ROM/DVD source if you do not have the Ubuntu installation media inserted in the drive.

Please read the installation notes. Press <enter> to continue or 'q' to quit:


SECURITY PACKAGES
-----------------
AppArmor is installed.
AppArmor protects the application from external intrusion attempts making the application secure

Would you like to have this installer install the hplip specific policy/profile (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? y


RUNNING PRE-INSTALL COMMANDS
----------------------------
OK


RUNNING HPLIP LIBS REMOVE COMMANDS
----------------------------------
sudo apt-get remove libhpmud0 libsane-hpaio
sudo apt-get remove libhpmud0 libsane-hpaio ( hp_libs_remove step 1)
OK


MISSING DEPENDENCIES
--------------------
Following dependencies are not installed. HPLIP will not work if all REQUIRED dependencies are not installed and some of the HPLIP features will not work if OPTIONAL dependencies are not installed.
Package-Name Component Required/Optional
pyqt5-dbus gui_qt5 OPTIONAL
pil scan OPTIONAL
reportlab fax OPTIONAL
pyqt5 gui_qt5 REQUIRED
python-notify gui_qt5 OPTIONAL
Do you want to install these missing dependencies (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? y


INSTALL MISSING REQUIRED DEPENDENCIES
-------------------------------------
note: Installation of dependencies requires an active internet connection.
warning: Missing REQUIRED dependency: pyqt5 (PyQt 5- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))


INSTALL MISSING OPTIONAL DEPENDENCIES
-------------------------------------
note: Installation of dependencies requires an active internet connection.
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'gui_qt5': pyqt5-dbus (PyQt 5 DBus - DBus Support for PyQt5)
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'gui_qt5': python-notify (Python libnotify - Python bindings for the libnotify Desktop notifications)
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'fax': reportlab (Reportlab - PDF library for Python)
warning: Missing OPTIONAL dependency for option 'scan': pil (PIL - Python Imaging Library (required for commandline scanning with hp-scan))
warning: This installer cannot install 'pil' for your distro/OS and/or version.


CHECKING FOR NETWORK CONNECTION
-------------------------------
Network connection present.


RUNNING PRE-PACKAGE COMMANDS
----------------------------
sudo dpkg --configure -a (Pre-depend step 1)
sudo apt-get install --yes --force-yes -f (Pre-depend step 2)
sudo apt-get update (Pre-depend step 3)
OK


DEPENDENCY AND CONFLICT RESOLUTION
----------------------------------
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes gtk2-engines-pixbuf'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-notify'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #1...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #2...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Command failed. Re-try #3...
Running 'sudo apt-get install --assume-yes python-reportlab'
Please wait, this may take several minutes...
error: Package install command failed with error code 100
Would you like to retry installing the missing package(s) (y=yes*, n=no, q=quit) ? n
warning: Some HPLIP functionality might not function due to missing package(s).
error: A required dependency 'pyqt5 (PyQt 5- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))' is still missing.


RUNNING POST-PACKAGE COMMANDS
-----------------------------
OK


RE-CHECKING DEPENDENCIES
------------------------
error: A required dependency 'pyqt5 (PyQt 5- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))' is still missing.
error: Installation cannot continue without this dependency.
error: Please manually install this dependency and re-run this installer.
kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~$

[Klaus Rasmussen]

Det er måske sådan jeg sætter i quote

Ikke i "quote", "code", det er knappen ved siden af!

Der mangler en afhængighed:
error: A required dependency 'pyqt5 (PyQt 5- Qt interface for Python (for Qt version 4.x))' is still missing.
error: Installation cannot continue without this dependency.
error: Please manually install this dependency and re-run this installer.

Kør:

Kode: Vælg alt

sudo apt-get install python3-pyqt5

[kjld]

Her kommer den næste - med code

Kode: Vælg alt

$ sudo apt-get install python3-pyqt5
[sudo] password for kjeld:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
python3-pyqt5 is already the newest version (5.14.1+dfsg-3build1).
python3-pyqt5 set to manually installed.
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  python3-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5 python3-notify2
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.


[Klaus Rasmussen]

Beklager, jeg kan ikke gennemskue det. Ved forsøg på at installere pakken hplip anføres den som manglende afhængighed, og ved forsøg på at installere den, gives der besked om at pakken allerede er den nyeste version.

Prøv denne før en ny installation:

Kode: Vælg alt

sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module

[kjld]

Så er den klar til din gennemgang

Kode: Vælg alt

~$ sudo apt install libcanberra-gtk-module libcanberra-gtk3-module
[sudo] password for kjeld:
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
libcanberra-gtk3-module is already the newest version (0.30-7ubuntu1).
libcanberra-gtk-module is already the newest version (0.30-7ubuntu1).
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required:
  python3-dbus.mainloop.pyqt5 python3-notify2
Use 'sudo apt autoremove' to remove them.
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 0 to remove and 0 not to upgrade.
kjeld@kjeld-IdeaPad-U330p:~

[kjld]

Jeg har hentet CUPS-BRF ind og Deskjej 2540 .............Q0604
Har så tilsluttet printeren
Når jeg forsøger at udskrive giver den samme besked som tidligere
Could not start printer - Check your printer configurations

Har derefter igen koblet printeren fra, og har fjernet de to printersettings, som jeg hentede ned.

Er der mon mere der kan gøres?

[Klaus Rasmussen]

Er der mon mere der kan gøres?

Hmmm... Er løbet tør for ideer pt.